swindon hammer
12:10 Tue Oct 10
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fraser,
let’s take the style of football out of the conversation for a minute and just focus on results.
You are suggesting that Moyes isn’t getting the best and full potential out of this group of players which is fair enough.
So in your opinion where should we be with this group of players in terms of Premier League position and European competition?
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fraser
11:54 Tue Oct 10
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Will tell - so last season you was criticising him and now you're not no one else should because you've decided he's beyond it?
If you really think he's getting the best and full potential out of the group of players he has and beyond any criticism, and can't be bothered to discuss it with you.
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Willtell
11:32 Tue Oct 10
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Except that's not really true is it fraser?
I'd say Antonio, Bowen and Paqueta are 3 attacking players for a start. And how many did Newcastle have?
Let's get this straight. I was critical of Moyes last season in PL but somewhere down the line you have to say that he's mostly been proved right in his approach and has reached a semi-final and won a Cup final as well as 2 top 7 finishes.
Tell us who you think is going to improve that record then?
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fraser
9:11 Tue Oct 10
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Tomshardware - do fuck off he could manage 10000 games of football, wtf has that got to do with not liking his negative approach which means we had 2 shots on goal in the first 75 minutes and just two attacking players on the pitch.
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wtf
8:36 Tue Oct 10
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Disgusting lack of respect shown to the Intertoto Cup
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Mex Martillo
8:06 Tue Oct 10
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Fighting talk Tom
I like that
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Tomshardware
10:18 Mon Oct 9
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Disgusting lack of respect shown to Moyes, bloke won us a trophy first time in 43 years and has managed over 1000 games and people still think they know better than him.
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Yarmouth
7:56 Mon Oct 9
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At what point in the season does it dawn on dickhead Davie that we might just have a very, very good player in Kudos, we spent nearly 50m on him, and he 'should really be starting'?
What a load of bollocks that he has to get 'premier league ready'. Fucking start him and if he gets knackered then substitute him with Benrahma or Fornals etc.
But to not start him after watching how he plays the game is simply fucking dreadful.
Only at West Ham and only under the donkey - gutless Moyes.
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New Jersey
5:25 Mon Oct 9
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Plus that smug twat Shearer failed to realise not only did they have an extra recovery day but also they played at home so would be tucked up in their mansions before midnight, while our lot wouldn't have arrived back in the UK until the early hours of Friday morning at best! What a prick!
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pdbis
4:45 Mon Oct 9
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It is a shame we aren't one of the so-called top 6 as we could say we don't want Bankes to referee any of our games for the rest of the season.
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fraser
4:02 Mon Oct 9
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Kudus best position is a ten, that's where he played and transformed the way we played. Getting him up front feeding on scraps won't see the best of him in my opinion.
But hopefully we will see soon where he's best. Give him a start because he makes stuff happen.
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daveyg
3:52 Mon Oct 9
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Antonio played really well the first 30/35. Then the team as a whole dipped towards half time.
The main front 3 of Paqueta,Bowen and Antonio all played across the 3 forward positions interchanging well. This led to the Newcastle defence not knowing which one to pick. Sometimes the wider players would drop deeper allowing Soucek to play further up,that's how his goal worked . Soucek towards the end of the half moved further forward we stagnated as did the game.
Antonio however wasn't fit enough to continue in the 2nd half. Whether Moyes trusted Kudus for an entire half is debatable. Moyes said so himself. I and many think he will be fine. I'll give Moyes plaudits for attacking the first 30 mins well and setting up tactically right. As against City we had a good chance to attack after going 1-0 up. But once again we held onto the 1 goal instead of being proactive and going for the 2nd when we were on top.I would have kept Soucek on for the same amount of time and replaced Antonio with Kudus at half time or at the least 10 mins max. Kudus is ready now,leave it to long then he'll be trying too hard.
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boleyn8420
3:49 Mon Oct 9
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Small gripe but having that smug twat Shearer comment on any Nookasell game is fucking tedious. The suggestion that they didnt win because of a CL hangover conveniently ignored the fact that we played in Europe a day after them. So not only did they have an extra day off they also are not the most amazing side in the world. Next time maybe look at the league table with us still above them before you try and write off the side the Maggots are playing against. Yes, my Monday is not going well. Cunts
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swindon hammer
3:27 Mon Oct 9
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We got a deserved point yesterday following on from wins against Sheffield Utd and in Germany last Thursday.
With Bowen signing a new contract it’s been a positive couple of weeks and start to the season.
COYI!
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Rossal
3:23 Mon Oct 9
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Yeah it has a case to be a foul, but I think the push/nudge or whatever looks far worse as Aguerd basc stops and calls for an offside whereas Isak is still switched on and looking hungry for a goal
Far more pissed off with Aguerd than the lino
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Lee Trundle
3:08 Mon Oct 9
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I agree with Rossal.
Had we scored that goal and it was disallowed for the very weak push Aguerd had on him, then I'd be fuming.
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Mad Dog
3:05 Mon Oct 9
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Rossal
"Thought on the ball yesterday he was poor then bullied for their 2nd. Isak does nudge him but"
Nudge him? He pushed him in the middle of the back with 2 hands. It was a clear foul
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BRANDED
1:41 Mon Oct 9
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The best thing was the fact that except their purple patch we were equal to them. A complete turn around from that horrific night earlier in the year. I see that as us improving and them being slightly diminished. We looked better against them that the City or Chelsea match.
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Charoo
1:28 Mon Oct 9
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Pentonville and Duke of Devonshire - spot on.
We actually played pretty well first half, Paqueta ran the game, his understanding with Emerson is excellent.
The only issue for me with Paqueta playing left is so much goes through him, hardly anything goes down the right, Bowen really isolated first half.
I’d drop Soucek in a heartbeat can’t stand watching him limp and lollop about all game. I don’t care if he’s scored a few tap ins, any decent AM would have double what he’s had by now.
Plus people say it was a free kick before the second goal but the ball was there to be won and Soucek went for it and completely missed the ball - it was a joke how badly he mis judged that. His overall contribution is dog shit.
Second half we typically sat back and waited for them to score we just go deeper and deeper until the inevitable goals against then do some substitutions at 70-75 mins. We were also second best for nearly all the second half we stopped fighting until the subs came on.
Kudus should be playing and starting, we should try and play football for 90 mins - imagine where we could be with this team if we actually tried to attack teams for 90 minutes.
I’d have been happy with a point before the game and we definitely deserved the point we got. But that game was there for the taking yesterday - the ref weren’t the only one who bottled it!
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El Scorchio
1:22 Mon Oct 9
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And that's a big issue. The 'fairness' of giving a player an extra life or 'not wanting to impact the game too much' or it being 'too early in the game' vs doing what's objectively right and refereeing an incident at face value. A yellow card offence is a fucking yellow card offence no matter what minute it occurs in and who commits it.
It seems more sensible for the ref to give it on the pitch and then for VAR to have a look IF there's doubt over the second yellow and then rescind it upon looking at evidence seen as it then has become a sending off offence. That way at least it'll be officiated properly rather than ignored and no-one can have any complaints.
But as mentioned, we are on both ends of these things thanks to the wild inconsistencies that plague the game. This time it's likely cost us two points, next time it could gift us two points.
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Rossal
1:22 Mon Oct 9
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Really disappointed i've not seen Moyes post match cunting the ref off..... surely thats the least he should be doing?
Pathetic from him, should be giving him all sorts of shit in his press conf
Also the yellow cards for 'asking the ref for a player to be booked' are shit aint they.....whats the point in that how on earth does that make the game better. I'd say about 70-80% the players are right in that it should be a booking
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